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Post by Kairi Sohma on Oct 16, 2005 21:46:28 GMT -5
Ok, that's it!! I'm really pissed off at this guy who reviewed the Fruits Basket anime on Amazon!!! He's one of the people who obviously didn't read the manga but still... he said it was sexist!!! Can you believe that?!?! Apparently the fact that Tohru actually _enjoys_ cooking and cleaning means the anime is 'so 1950's' or something!!! What is this?!?! It just means that she has a positive outlook on life! And what's wrong with her enjoying taking care of the people she loves??? And he accuses the Sohmas of 'letting her buy them chocolate even though she does all the housework for free'. They didn't know!! DUH!!!! I'm glad people said his review didn't help them... it means other FB fans are pissed too.... he said the characters were 'weak-hearted'... GRRRR
Hey, wait a second..... I just read the last paragraph and he said that he _did_ read the manga..... what the hell?!?!
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Post by Kairi Sohma on Oct 16, 2005 21:54:00 GMT -5
Another one.... he gave it 1 star out of 5.... I hate him.... gaahhh! Yet another person who is so incredibly stupid that they cannot tell that Tohru uses her 'happyhappyjoy' act as a facade to cover her feelings of anger and despair!!! How come they all hate Tohru?!?! I feel insulted...
Oh, oh! And get this: they think a 'director' made up the story. Um, no that was our dear Takaya-sensei. Not some lousy DragonBallZ writer. He apparently thought it would be some sort of show that has a lot of 'magic' in it. Like pokemon or something... Let me just show you the paragraph:
"What was the biggest disappointment, though, was the lack of the director's creativity with the Sohma's curse. I thought there would be a huge crazy spiel with the Sohma's changing into their zodiac animals all over the place in public. I also thought they would take advantage of their ability to change into an animal more often. At the beginning, it looked like the Sohma's could communicate or control their zodiac animals, but it turns out the animals just follow them. Even that aspect wasn't even taken well advantage of in the show! Unfortunately for me, I have some creativity, and the show did not come even close to its full potential of crazines."
Not to mention the spelling errors! There was a different guy who reviewed the manga who I wrote a review in response too.... I was pretty pissed. I'll post it. I'm sorry but I need to vent...
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Post by Kairi Sohma on Oct 16, 2005 22:00:08 GMT -5
(( Evil Older Man's Review. You can just tell he's old...))
Natsuki Takaya, Fruits Basket vol. 1 (Tokyopop, 2000)
Ah, the wonders of Engrish grammar. How can you not be intrigued by something called Fruits Basket? Especially when you think about the number of translators and proofreaders it probably came through to get to the publication stage. And yet, the plural of "fruit" still, somehow, retained an incorrect s.
Okay, so the story begins with Tohru. Tohru is an orphan. She's been living in a tent ni the woods while saving up money. She's discovered by the owner of the property on which her tent sits, and after a whole bunch of panels, invited to live with him and his two brothers (one of whom is a classmate of Tohru's) at their place as general housekeeper/cook/what-have-you. All well and good, except for that pesky family curse: when any of the brothers (or other family members) is embraced by a member of the opposite sex who's not a part of the family, they turn into creatures from the Chinese zodiac. (Speculation about generations of inbreeding ensues.)
Putting aside the general Deliverance-ness of where the story could go, the biggest problem this first installment in the long-running series has is that it starts off confusing. Part of the problem is that the three brothers are almost indistinguishable from one another, but more perplexing is the setup of the storyline. This, however, goes away by (roughly) the beginning of what was originally issue 3, so there's still more than enough time once you've figured everything out to get involved with the story.
It's cute, and interesting enough that I've got vol. 2 on hold from the library, but beware of some confusing moments at the beginning. ***
((he gave it 3 out of 5 stars. Which is the 'it's ok' rating. Jerk... didn't even get his facts right. Ok, so here's my SPAZ ATTACK I mean... err, REBUTTAL!!!!))
This is probably the best series I have EVER read. It comes second only to Harry Potter. Yes, I'm definitely comparing Fruits Basket to a novel. It might as well be one. That's why it makes me sad when people decide they don't like it after reading the first 3 or 4 books. Not even half of the characters are introduced by then! You only meet Akito(maybe the most interesting and despicable character in the story) in the 4th book and you don't even find out his true identity until book 11! Give the series a chance! An then there's the complant: 'but it's so confusing!' No, it's not confusing. You just have to THINK while you read it! Oh NO! Thinking? Who could ever ask that of us?? Oh, yes. I almost forgot the 'it's too sugary' complaint. The people who are only keeping up with the English release(i'm keeping up with the Japanese release, which is much farther storywise) are probably wondering why it's rated Teen if it's so 'sugary'. It's probably because almost all of the sugar is gone. Shigure, our lovable puppy, is somewhat of a villian. Oh yeah there's also that whole thing where someone gets pushed out of a window.... Hey! Where'd all the sugar go? I think a lot of the problem is that people think Tohru is too happy and perfect. But that's where her flaw is. She doesn't show her feelings. She keeps them bottled up. If you keep reading the series you'll see that her past was even darker than it seems. I've noticed that a lot of Yu Watase fans don't like this story. I'm not really sure why. I LOVE Watase!! But I still love Takaya-sensei. I'm guessing it's because Watase's manga is straightforward and moves much more quickly than Fruits Basket. I don't know... I sort of like having to THINK while I read a story. And although I've never done this before I'd like to rebutt some of the statements made in a previous review on this manga by Robert P. Beveridge. You OBVIOUSLY did not read the book carefully. You complained about the 'fruit' in 'Fruits Basket' being spelled with an 's'. If you had read carefully you would have noticed that the title is based off of a children's game. This game is called 'fruits basket' NOT 'fruit basket' or whatever you want to call it. And Shigure, Yuki, and Kyo aren't brothers, they're cousins. And 2 of them are her classmates NOT one. I would also like to ask how the three alleged 'brothers' are 'indistinguishable'? I'm guessing you don't mean by how they look considering they all have different colored hair. And I don't think you can mean there personality since one is quiet and kind, the other is loud and hot-tempered, and the other is hilarious and slightly mysterious. Umm, indistinguishable? I think not. Fruits Basket is an amazing achievement. I really don't know how one person pulled this series off. There is a remarkable depth in the story that lies in the characters physcological abuse. And you really need to keep reading the manga up to around the 9th book before the foundation for the story is set and the characterization goes off the charts(reading the foundation is enjoyable too). There are over 21 characters and each has there own story that somehow meshes with the central plot. It is also an endearing love story. It's just so sweet! You'll find yourself pulling for various couples and hoping that others don't wind up together. And not just so YOU can have Yuki you crazy fangirl. There are also amzing (amazingly sad...) plot twists. Oh, my poor, poor, poor, Kyo-kun..... So will the Sohma's be free from the curse or will they be in bondage for even more generations to come? READ!!!!
((I gave it 5 out of 5 of course. I think my review is better... hmmph. For some reason when I read it to my brother he started to laugh....))
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Post by Kairi Sohma on Oct 16, 2005 22:16:42 GMT -5
Ok, um, scared now............ this is a review of Harry Potter 5.... --runs away from scary reviewer.
"H. Potter is teaching kids moral lessons from a anglo-protestant perspective, while neatly avoiding the real problems in this world caused by protestants. H. Potter is translanted into well neigh 50 languages and in all locales parents can by the english edition to accompany the native translation. Is this another insidious step down the path of English gloabl domination? Kids need to develope reading/litterary skills in their native tongues; not that of the Lord of Canturburry!!! (unless of course the global english brigade [led by the good old US of A] envisions said language being replaced with that of Angleterre). buy your kid a good book in the language of your ancestors (if at all possible), or ANYTHING BUT ENGLISH ! Harry Potter is the devil !!!"
Weirdly religious parents: Well, of course!! We've been telling you that HP is satan himself!! Children: Yay! I'm finally starting to love reading all because of HP!! Weirdly religious parents: Oh no!! They love reading!! Hurry!! Censor, censor!! Who cares show many protests we went to in college trying to promote fredom! This is a devil book! JKR is a witch! Burn her at the stake!! JKR: Oh, dear.... I knew it would come to this.... Me: WHY DON'T PEOPLE USE THEIR COMMON SENSE?!?!?!?!?!
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Post by Kairi Sohma on Oct 16, 2005 22:27:44 GMT -5
Must strangle......... evil........ stupid......... dumb........frickin' atheist..............grrr..........can't......killing is against the ten commandments.........
"What is all the fuss about? This book is just another in a long line of people making money off of the Harry Potter books, with out the slightest bit of work on their own. God is fake, there is no god, so there is no reason to have a problem with the Potter books in the first place. For the real truth, See books like the ones from David Icke. Do the historical work yourself, and admit, there is no "god", just science, and then go and enjoy the Real works worth reading, like the wonderful Harry Potter books. "
GLORY TO GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Kairi Sohma on Oct 16, 2005 22:52:12 GMT -5
Someone else complained that Harry Potter 4 was 700 some'ut' pages. Apparently that's 'too long for a kids' book' MMhmm. 'nuff said. And apparently all the HP books suck cuz they're over 250 pages(paginas lol) umm.... what the heck?! Why are books only good if they're 250 pages?! And she claims to be an adult....
People are complaing that the _4th_ book is boring.... the 4th book is the _least_ boring.... and they say it's too long.... babies....
This other guy is an idiot.... 'Rita Skeeter and SPEW are unnecessary to the central plot blah blah blah...' Who f****** cares!!! NOT EVERYTHING IN A F****** BOOK HAS TO MATTER TO THE CENTRAL PLOT!! YOU'RE THINKING OF THE F****** MOVIES!!!! --breathes hard-- err, sorry.... I get rather emotionally involved when it comes to Harry.....
"It tells too much and it's just too easy of a read. There are no hidden messages between the sentences, or any moral truth we must learn from them but rather, just sentences telling about Harry Potter and his friends, The Evil Lord Voldemort, and The Hogwarts school of witchcraft and wizardry. " Umm..... SO?
"nothing in the book is of rowling's own creation-- everything she just borrow it from somewhere else. for instance, the idea of a wizard, nor goblin is new" The idea wasn't knew when JRTolkien wrote LOTR either, idiot.
"rowling has adopted such a recipe (start introducing characters> something unexpected happens > band of children miraculous solve the the mystery and become heroes)" OOOh! Someone didn't read the 6th book!
"Other characters who are supposedly 'good,' such as Mr. Weasley, the father of Harry's friend, Ron, also lie and, in fact, Mr. Weasley advises his two sons to not tell their mother that they gambled. The story starts with a murder, and a very gruesome and repulsive ritual is performed towards the end of the book. The book also presents the idea that the ends justify the means. I read all four books and carefully documented many moral problems in the main characters that cause these books to be highly inappropriate for children ages 9-12" WHAT? you.... umm.... documented...? Now you want everyone in the world to be perfect?! And I wouldn't set the age limit to '9-12' I would say 'idiotic adults DO NOT READ'.
"Harry is not learning to be a witch; he is learning to master forces that are the domain of a would-be sorcerer." Well, I sure hope he's not learning to be a witch, considering he's a boy.
"I think this book puts bad thoughts in little kids minds. It made my brother break his arm because he thought the broom could fly so he jumped off the roof.The book made my sister have nightmares for ONE whole month. The reason of that was she was screard of voldemar. I think this book should be of the market imidetly. That is all i have to say about this horrible book." First of all, I don't believe you. Secondly, if you're telling the truth your parents did a really bad job raising you. And thirdly, who the heck is 'voldemar'??!
"In my experience, many of the people who love Harry Potter are the ones who will read a book only if they have a book report or summer reading to do. These books are for the people whose imaginations are impoverished due to lack of reading." Hey, Jess, should I take that as a personal insult?
A lot of these people seem to think that HP copies LOTR. I've read 'em both and here's the major difference: HP rocks and LOTR sucks.
"laughable, inane villains, who are both stupid, and the 'diet pepsi' of evil" Diet..... pepsi.....?
"Harry has shown no interest before in girls. Now he is swooning over a fat french girl who talks like an idiot" I'm guessing she means Fleur... even if she's not fat... and she talks like an idiot Because she has an accent duh!! He probly showed no interest in girls because he didn't hit puberty yet and he doesn't start till he's 15 anyway!!
"the tone of the Harry Potter series has left the realm of children's books. I am in my 30s and I found "the death" to be one of the cruelest things I've ever read - not even taking into account that this book is aimed for people 9-12!" Oh great another baby. GET OVER IT!!! 9-12 yr olds aren't as babyish as you!!!!
"I think Harry Potter books are definately over-rated! I mean come on! Who in thier right mind is interested in a wizard at school with a big scar on his head?!"Umm... the HP fans?
"In my opinion they just aren't interesting at all! It gets lots of publicity and goes straight to number one in the chart- it just doesn't deserve it! However well done to J.K.Rowling because she has probably made millions from it when she was just an average person- it just shows that anybody can do it whether thier books are rubbish or not!" Well at least she complimened JKR..... sort of.
"Too long, too dark!. Not fit for kids below 16!" OH GREAT! ANOTHER over-potective adult!!!
"I also for the first time had the feeling that Rowling will write a long-breathed 7book-series, although she has blocked many future options for the story in book 4." How in the heck do you know what it cut off?!?!
It was sort of funny... most of the bad reviews were written by adults who were 'disturbed' by the dark theme of the books. While the kids say 'it was so funny and cool! I hate voldie!' Get over it parents!!
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Post by Zuki Sohma on Oct 21, 2005 7:50:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I hate it when people get really unreasonable about things, for really weird reasons. Like my beloved Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Tim Burton style, which people keep on over-comparing to the first movie, and picking to shreds for minor or not-at-all-there reasons.
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Post by Kairi Sohma on Oct 22, 2005 9:16:42 GMT -5
Yupyup. I would probly agree if I ever saw the movie. And I'm sorry for my spaz attack ;__;
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